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Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:35 am
by Alfie
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport ... arlington/

Wide ranging article by Mr Stoddart.

Gives update on situation on loanees and interesting bit about Charman - it seems he has a release clause in his contract and a club (bradford city?) met it, but he turned them down.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:31 am
by Old Git
Yes it means that with a release clause in his contract any transfer fee may not be that high. That being the case it is all about the add ons we can negotiate with potential buyers. The fact that he turned down a League 2 side suggests to me that he and his agent know other clubs are interested and presumably expect he can get better terms elsewhere.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:08 pm
by lo36789
Old Git wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:31 am
Yes it means that with a release clause in his contract any transfer fee may not be that high. That being the case it is all about the add ons we can negotiate with potential buyers.
If a release clause is met I don't know that we can then negotiate further add ons?

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:31 pm
by al_quaker
lo36789 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:08 pm
Old Git wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:31 am
Yes it means that with a release clause in his contract any transfer fee may not be that high. That being the case it is all about the add ons we can negotiate with potential buyers.
If a release clause is met I don't know that we can then negotiate further add ons?
Yes this was my concern when I read about the release clause. Unless such a release clause could be "50k + 10% sell-on fee" or something?

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:40 pm
by spen666
lo36789 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:08 pm
Old Git wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:31 am
Yes it means that with a release clause in his contract any transfer fee may not be that high. That being the case it is all about the add ons we can negotiate with potential buyers.
If a release clause is met I don't know that we can then negotiate further add ons?
Kieran Maguire was on about this in a recent episode of his Price of Football Podcast and was basically saying once release clause is met, a club has to let player speak/ go and cannot insist on more terms eg sell on fees etc. It doesn't stop selling club asking for them though

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:41 pm
by lo36789
I mean it depends.

The clause could be anything. Could just be if an EFL club approach we must let Charman speak with them, there is no actual obligation to sell at a particular price.

Sure I've heard it before where they fee / transfer negotiation happens secondary. In fact when Ronaldo joined United this summer I am sure they said the clubs hadn't agreed terms at that point.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:44 pm
by olrad
As Bradford bid £41K , I’d say it’s safe to assume there is a £40K buy out . He’s only recently signed upto this contract so I’m comfortable that all the extras will be in there as well .

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:46 pm
by lo36789
Surely they'd have done an Arsenal.

£40k and £1

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:43 pm
by Darlogramps
Squad is looking rather thin if we don’t make any progress with anyone.

Taylor; Griffiths, Ellis, Storey, Smith; Purver, Hatfield, Wheatley; Rivers, Cassidy, Lambert.

Hedley, Dos Santos, O’Neill plus a couple of youngsters.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:43 pm
by Lallacab
Darlogramps wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:43 pm
Squad is looking rather thin if we don’t make any progress with anyone.

Taylor; Griffiths, Ellis, Storey, Smith; Purver, Hatfield, Wheatley; Rivers, Cassidy, Lambert.

Hedley, Dos Santos, O’Neill plus a couple of youngsters.
I was thinking this , strange time for Mondal to go out on loan if we cant fill the bench without youngsters

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:02 am
by JE93
Positive news as we confirm Rose on loan for the rest of the season. Available to play v Kidderminster today.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:36 am
by bga
JE93 wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:02 am
Positive news as we confirm Rose on loan for the rest of the season. Available to play v Kidderminster today.
Really good move has been great since he got into the first team.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:25 am
by Darlogramps
Jake Lawlor now released by Hartlepool.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:40 am
by JE93
Darlogramps wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:25 am
Jake Lawlor now released by Hartlepool.
Guess it will all depend on whether he wants to stay Full time or not, but I hope we're in for him. Wouldn't surprise me if a team up the road would also be interested. Definitely be a big boost to the squad for the 2nd half of the season if we can get it done.

Could be one positive from losing Charman if it means we could use the confirmed income to get a decent spine of the team signed up for next season early. Taylor, Lawlor, Hatfield would be a good start rather than having to wait till after BTB has finished to sort contract renewals.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:20 pm
by lo36789
I think we will get him to be honest.

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:26 pm
by LoidLucan
He's already got his options sorted, that's for sure

Re: Player update - Rose, Charman et al

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:59 pm
by AndyPark
Wouldn’t be shocked if he ended up at Spennymoor collecting plenty of vibes.